Re: in response to Jochen

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Posted by Jochen Katz on February 10, 1998 at 04:35:58:

In Reply to: Re: in response to Jochen posted by Mohamed Ghounem on February 10, 1998 at 03:45:12:

: Jochen wrote;
: Don't lie. Your only interest is to insult. Forget the "dear".

: Now Jochen, that is not nice, brother Juan is searching for turth and is only pointing out to you that your arguments against Islam would be more damaging if used against Christianity (i.e. women staying home)

Juan accused me of many things and called me names in his posting.
That just doesn't got together with "dear". That is all.


: For you to call brother Juan a liar for being kind

I don't know what your definition of kind is, but I have
no desire to discuss this at this time.

: and informative to you is bad bad.

And don't you think this is rather childish language?

: Jochen wrote;

: Since you are new here, that is no evidence to you, maybe.
: But I have been in the dialog and debate for nearly four years,
: and those who have observed me might not like my views on
: certain issues, but most know that I do have integrity.

: Mohamed wrote:

: Ha!!

: I have been lurking at this Debate site since post # 20 it is now almost
: a thousand, I have also watched you at soc.religion.Islam and integrity
: is far from the word I would use to describe you.

I said most. Not all are perceptive enough to acknowledge
integrity in those whose content they hate.

: I will admit that some of your work is intellagent
: although I think it is more than one person using the
: name Jochen Katz because some of your work is very childish.

There is only one person using Jochen Katz. There was only one
week late last year when a Muslim imposter created a hotmail account
with the user id jochen_katz@hotmail.com and tried to slander me
by sending postings under my name. But we quickly put a stop to that.

: Second, you are fair in that you link to Muslim opinions but there
: are Muslim sites that link to Christians, I know of at least two that
: link to answering Islam.

Obviously those sites that were created only to respond to my
site don't count in this. The typical Muslim sites who attack
Christianity do not link to Christian answers. For example,
many sites have material by Deedat, his debate stuff, but they do
not link to the Christian answers to Deedat. Rather one-sided debates.

: Fair and intellagent is not the definision of (integrity).

I never said so.

: You have shown in many posts and the majority of your site that
: you knowingly decieve/lie, you stereotype, and a word that I
: think sums it up and I do mean it in a polite way is (hypocrite)
: meaning you ask others to reflect and yet you don't.

No, I say what I think and I think what I say/write. That is what
integrity is about. I do not knowingly deceive. Bring your proof
if you are truthful. I do reflect a lot. But I have no need to prove
this to you. It shows in my writings for those who can read.

: Juan Showing you that your style of decieving in order to trick people is
: not the Will of our Creator, Juan is trying to tell you and my apologies
: if I am mistaken is that "People no matter what religion should not be
: negatively stereotyped and slandered upon as you do in your site. The
: decieving that you do is insulting to anyone who is open minded and
: researches the facts"

Where please do I stereo-type? All the time general accusations
without any evidence. I am so tired of it.

I have stated it many times, if you find anything wrong on my
pages, then please send me the correction and it will be updated.

But instead you only complain. It is so much easier.

J.Katz

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