Re: in response to Jochen

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Posted by Ibrahim300 on February 11, 1998 at 18:25:47:

In Reply to: Re: in response to Jochen posted by Malakh on February 11, 1998 at 03:27:43:

Malakh:
You say that the Message between the different version of the Bible is the same.
Romans 7:15: I do not understand my own actions..R.S.V
This verse is omitted in the K.J.V version. The same Message?

Luke 22:70: Then they said: Are you the son of God? He said unto them, 'You say that I am. K.J.V

In the N.I.V : They asked are you the son of God, he said, "YOU ARE RIGHT IN SAYING I AM.

In the L.B.V : They all shouted" Then you claim you are the son of God? And he replied YES I AM.

Is this what you call the same meaning?

Job 13:15
K.J.V : Though he slay me yet I trust him.
R.S.V : He will slay me, I have NO hope.
G.N.B : I've lost all hope so what if God kills me.
L.B.V : God may kill me for saying this-in fact, I except him to.

Is this the same meaning between the versions?

: Mohammed wrote:
: >The second point is that there is no original Bible, it is gone, therefore when a _new_ Bible comes out (i.e. New International Version), it is accepted as the
: >new word of God which supersedes the previous word of God. According to Islam, there is only 1 Qur'an and is only accepted in Arabic, any translation is not
: >equal to the original as any linguist would explain.

: If this were true it would be the Quran of Mohammed, not Uthmans Quran. As Ive said before, Uthman, according to history (books listed many times
: on this forum before) destroyed the original Quran so that no could corrupt it. We have no idea what the original held, we have no testimonies in history or
: archeological documents saying that Uthman preserved the word of Mohammed.

: As I have said before, the MESSAGE between versions of the Bible has NOT changed. If I want to read from a more "romantic" stance, I might read from
: the KJV (Songs of Soloman, ICorinthians 13) whereas a good study of the bible generally leads me either back to the DSS or Papyrii or Codices. If I am being lazy that day,
: I might even go for either the NIV or RSV. Again, the message is the same, the parables are the same.

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Comments:
: Malakh:
: You say that the Message between the different version of the Bible is the same.
: Romans 7:15: I do not understand my own actions..R.S.V
: This verse is omitted in the K.J.V version. The same Message?

: Luke 22:70: Then they said: Are you the son of God? He said unto them, 'You say that I am. K.J.V

: In the N.I.V : They asked are you the son of God, he said, "YOU ARE RIGHT IN SAYING I AM.

: In the L.B.V : They all shouted" Then you claim you are the son of God? And he replied YES I AM.

: Is this what you call the same meaning?

: Job 13:15
: K.J.V : Though he slay me yet I trust him.
: R.S.V : He will slay me, I have NO hope.
: G.N.B : I've lost all hope so what if God kills me.
: L.B.V : God may kill me for saying this-in fact, I except him to.

: Is this the same meaning between the versions?

:
: : Mohammed wrote:
: : >The second point is that there is no original Bible, it is gone, therefore when a _new_ Bible comes out (i.e. New International Version), it is accepted as the
: : >new word of God which supersedes the previous word of God. According to Islam, there is only 1 Qur'an and is only accepted in Arabic, any translation is not
: : >equal to the original as any linguist would explain.

: : If this were true it would be the Quran of Mohammed, not Uthmans Quran. As Ive said before, Uthman, according to history (books listed many times
: : on this forum before) destroyed the original Quran so that no could corrupt it. We have no idea what the original held, we have no testimonies in history or
: : archeological documents saying that Uthman preserved the word of Mohammed.

: : As I have said before, the MESSAGE between versions of the Bible has NOT changed. If I want to read from a more "romantic" stance, I might read from
: : the KJV (Songs of Soloman, ICorinthians 13) whereas a good study of the bible generally leads me either back to the DSS or Papyrii or Codices. If I am being lazy that day,
: : I might even go for either the NIV or RSV. Again, the message is the same, the parables are the same.

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