Posted by Mohamed Ghounem on February 10, 1998 at 03:45:12:
In Reply to: Re: in response to Jochen posted by Jochen Katz on February 09, 1998 at 21:16:22:
In the Name of Allah the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
Juan wrote:
: Dear Jochen
Jochen wrote;
Don't lie. Your only interest is to insult. Forget the "dear".
Now Jochen, that is not nice, brother Juan is searching for turth and is only pointing out to you that your arguments against Islam would be more damaging if used against Christianity (i.e. women staying home)
For you to call brother Juan a liar for being kind and informative to you is bad bad.
Jochen wrote;
Since you are new here, that is no evidence to you, maybe. But I have been in the dialog and debate for nearly four years, and those who have observed me might not like my views on certain issues, but most know that I do have integrity.
Mohamed wrote:
Ha!!
I have been lurking at this Debate site since post # 20 it is now almost a thousand, I have also watched you at soc.religion.Islam and integrity is far from the word I would use to describe you.
I will admit that some of your work is intellagent although I think it is more than one person using the name Jochen Katz because some of your work is very childish. http://www.debate.org.uk/weboard/debate/messages/746.html etc..
Second, you are fair in that you link to Muslim opinions but there are Muslim sites that link to Christians, I know of at least two that link to answering Islam.
Fair and intellagent is not the definision of (integrity).
The Webster Dictionary meaning of integrity is: Moral soundness; honesty; freedom from corrupting influence or motive; -- used especially with reference to the fulfillment of contracts, the discharge of agencies, trusts, and the like; uprightness; rectitude.
You have shown in many posts and the majority of your site that you knowingly decieve/lie, you stereotype, and a word that I think sums it up and I do mean it in a polite way is (hypocrite) meaning you ask others to reflect and yet you don't.
Jochen wrote;
All the rest of your posting has no substance and is 95% insult.
again Jochen this is a reflection of an unwillingness to be open-minded, brother Juans post was mostly in my opinion, informative
Juan Showing you that your style of decieving in order to trick people is not the Will of our Creator, Juan is trying to tell you and my apologies if I am mistaken is that "People no matter what religion should not be negatively stereotyped and slandered upon as you do in your site. The decieving that you do is insulting to anyone who is open minded and researches the facts"
Jochen wrote;
{May the Lord have mercy on us all.}
'Do you personally believe in the crucifixion and bodily resurrection
of Jesus? Do you think that evidence is "defied"?'
Peace and Blessings,
Your Brother in Islam: Mohamed