Posted by Mohamed Ghounem on December 31, 1997 at 17:13:47:
In Reply to: Re: Has Allah Removed the Curse of Babylon posted by Malakh on December 31, 1997 at 09:15:00:
Dear Brother Malakh,
I am honored by your response,
I will start where you do;
{As for this statement: For all Muslims no matter wealth, color..........Islam is Anti-Black.
American blacks have been widely deceived. Only people with white
faces will be saved; people with black faces will be damned}:
Pickthall
[Al-Imran 3:106] On the Day when (some) faces will be whitened and (some) faces will be blackened;
and as for those whose faces have been blackened, it will be said unto them: Disbelieved ye after
your (profession of) belief ? Then taste the punishment for that ye disbelieved
[Al-Imran 3:107] And as for those whose faces have been whitened, in the mercy of Allah they dwell for ever.
Yusufali
[Al-Imran 3:106] On the Day when some faces will be (lit up with) white, and some faces will be
(in the gloom of) black: To those whose faces will be black, (will be said): "Did ye reject Faith
after accepting it? Taste then the penalty for rejecting Faith."
[Al-Imran 3:107] But those whose faces will be (lit with) white,- they will be in (the light of) God's mercy:
therein to dwell (for ever).
Shakir
[Al-Imran 3:106] On the day when (some) faces shall turn white and (some) faces shall turn black; then
as to those whose faces turn black: Did you disbelieve after your believing? Taste therefore
the chastisement because you disbelieved.
[Al-Imran 3:107] And as to those whose faces turn white, they shall be in Allah's mercy; in it they shall-abide
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This Brother Malakh is a sematic expression that is "Used More in the Bible";
Job 30:26But when I looked for good, evil came; and when I waited for light, darkness came.
27My heart is in turmoil, and is never still; days of affliction come to meet me.
28I go about blackened, but not by the sun; I stand up in the assembly, and cry for help.
29I am a brother of jackals, and a companion of ostriches.
30My skin turns black and falls from me, and my bones burn with heat.
"also"
Jeremiah 4:28For this the earth shall mourn, and the heavens above be black; for I have spoken, I have purposed; I have not relented nor will I turn back."
Black in the Bible is assiociated with Bad, Evil, Hell, etc.. this is the structure of the language, it is nothing personel against anyone fore no one is 100% black, even the darkest people are from india are not 100% black.
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You wrote;
This message proves, contrary to popular hearsay, that the New Testament
does condemn slave-trading as sinful.
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Let us see brother Malakh What does Jesus (in the New Testament) say about owning slaves?
Luke7:3-10 Jesus heals a slave but does not free him, therefore agreeing with human slavory and also calls the 'Slave Owner' "very faithful"!
'O.K. for Priests to buy slaves' Leviticus 22:11 but if a priest buys a slave as his property for money, the slave may eat of it; and those that are born in his house may eat of his food.
Abuse of slaves by saints John 18:10 Then Simon Peter, having a sword, drew it and struck the high priest's slave and cut off his right ear. The slave's name was Malchus.
slaves not to eat before being circumsisded Exodus 12:44 but every slave that is bought for money may eat of it after you have circumcised him.
Bible predicts slavory until the end of time Revelation 13:16 Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead,
Keep slaves? Deuteronomy 23:15 "You shall not give up to his master a slave who has escaped from his master to you;"
The Bible says a human if a slave is only a piece of property Exodus 21:21 But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be punished; for the slave is his money.
although there are anti Islamic sites such as 'answering Islam' which falsely claims Islam is pro slavery, the Turth is in the Teachings of Islam, the Koran and Hadith where through out it is promoted to "Free Slaves" as the First convert to Islam was a slave that prophet Muhammad freed
The Koran often says free slaves 002.178 004.092 024.033 058.003 090.013
and the Hadith "Sayings of the Prophet"
Complete Sahih Bukhari
001.003.124 002.025.579 002.025.580 002.025.587 003.034.365 003.034.430 003.043.648 003.046.698 003.046.701 003.046.704 003.046.709 003.046.729 003.046.737 003.047.752 004.053.372 005.059.399 005.059.676 006.060.025 006.060.249 007.062.151 007.063.210 007.065.341 008.080.743 008.080.746 008.082.841
Partial Sahih Muslim
004.1812 005.2181 009.3901 014.4078 014.4081
Partial Sunan Abu Dawud
002.0591 012.2207 012.2208 012.2258 019.2946 029.3942 029.3953 039.4564 041.5059 041.5121 041.5148
Complete Malik's Muwatta
018.18.9.29 018.18.16.42 020.20.72.243 020.20.75.250 021.21.9.17 022.22.7.12 027.27.14.16 029.29.6.19a 029.29.7.22 029.29.8.24 029.29.9.26 029.29.9.27 029.29.9.29 029.29.12.35 029.29.13.36 029.29.17.47 029.29.17.50 029.29.18.51a 029.29.23.69 029.29.31.94 031.31.3.3 031.31.4.4 036.36.4.7 036.36.16.14 036.36.21.23 037.37.3.4 037.37.8.7 038.38.1.1 038.38.2.2 038.38.6.8 038.38.6.9 038.38.6.10 038.38.6.11 038.38.7.12 038.38.8.13 038.38.9.15
038.38.10.20 038.38.11.21 039.39.1.3 039.39.2.4 039.39.3.5 039.39.4.6 039.39.5.7 039.39.9.11 039.39.10.12 039.39.11.14 039.39.12.15 040.40.1.1 040.40.2.2 040.40.3.3 040.40.5.6 040.40.6.7 043.43.7.6 043.43.20.15 043.43.21.15a 043.43.24.15d
This is facts compared to fiction from anti-Islamic sites, (you know who you are)
Majority of Africa is Muslim as it always has been after the arival of the Koran, visit
http://www.paranoia.com/~wcs/index.htm {slaves converted to Christinas in America}
http://www.flash.net/~royal/slavery.html {promoteing slavory in the Bible, more passages}
Slavory was a fact in those days, but to call Islam 'anti-Black' is crude and racist.
Great people were Muslim and very Pro Black, for Example Malcolm X
http://www.iu13.k12.pa.us/donegal/dms/kif/malx.htm
Peace and Blessings,
Your Brother in Islam: Mohamed