Posted by Mohamed Ghounem on December 02, 1997 at 13:45:26:
In Reply to: Re: Equation of One God without partners posted by Barbara on December 01, 1997 at 20:09:33:
Dear Sister Barbara,
I will start where you do;
{The Christian technique is not mathematical, but you're probably looking for a response.}
I do admire your persistence sister Barbara, Mathematics "is" the technique of God according to the Bible, addition, multiplication, and division are common words in the Bible.
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book" {Revelation 22:18}
Other Passages where the "Bible" uses the "Mathematical Addition technique":
Genesis 30:24 - (2) oLeviticus 2:13 oLeviticus 5:16 oLeviticus 6:5 o
Leviticus 6:12 oLeviticus 22:14 oLeviticus 27:13 oLeviticus 27:15 o
Leviticus 27:19 oLeviticus 27:31 oNumbers 5:7 oDeuteronomy 4:2 o
Deuteronomy 12:32 oDeuteronomy 20:8 oDeuteronomy 29:19 o2 Samuel 15:4 o2 Kings 20:6 o1 Chronicles 22:14 o2 Chronicles 28:13 oProverbs 1:5 o
Proverbs 9:9 oProverbs 30:6 oIsaiah 5:8 oIsaiah 29:1 oIsaiah 38:5 o
Jeremiah 7:21 oJeremiah 30:19 oEzekiel 16:43 oMatthew 6:27 oLuke 12:25 o
Galatians 3:15 o2 Peter 1:5 oRevelation 22:18
"He may prepare it, but the just shall put it on, and the innocent shall divide the silver." {Job 27:17}
Other passages where the "Bible" uses the "Mathematical division technique":
Genesis 10:25 oNumbers 2:4 oNumbers 2:6 oNumbers 2:8 oNumbers 2:11 o
Numbers 2:13 oNumbers 2:15 oNumbers 2:19 oNumbers 2:21 oNumbers 2:23 o Numbers 2:26 oNumbers 2:28 oNumbers 2:30 oNumbers 10:15 oNumbers 10:16 o Numbers 10:19 oNumbers 10:20 oNumbers 10:23 oNumbers 10:24 oNumbers 10:26 oNumbers 10:27 oNumbers 24:23 oJoshua 22:14 o1 Chronicles 1:19 o1 Chronicles 27:1 o1 Chronicles 27:2 - (2) o1 Chronicles 27:4 - (3) o1 Chronicles 27:5 o1 Chronicles 27:6 o1 Chronicles 27:7 o1 Chronicles 27:8 o1 Chronicles 27:9 o1 Chronicles 27:10 o1 Chronicles 27:11 o1 Chronicles 27:12 o1 Chronicles 27:13 o1 Chronicles 27:14 o1 Chronicles 27:15 oEzra 10:16 oPsalms 73:4 oProverbs 26:23 oProverbs 30:1 oEzekiel 27:6 oAmos 4:3 oLuke 1:5 oLuke 1:8 oLuke 12:51 o1 Corinthians 12:25
"Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee." {Hebrews 6:14}
Other passages where the "Bible uses the Mathematical multiplication technique":
oGenesis 8:17 oGenesis 9:7 oExodus 7:3 oLeviticus 26:21 oDeuteronomy
7:22 o2 Samuel 24:3 o1 Chronicles 21:3 oJob 9:17 oJeremiah 46:11 o
Ezekiel 36:10 oNahum 3:15
You see sister Barbara, the Bible commonly uses the mathmatical technique, Therefore it is divine to use, Since God uses the mathmatical techniques the most.
Even in my original post at the end, I showed you where it is written in the Bible where it says, don't have faith in something that doesn't add up or make doesn't make sense.
{God(Creator),Jesus(God comes to earth), and the Holy Spirit(within believers) are "same" not "equal" unless you want to say they are equal because they are one and the same.}
Again sister Barbara, you are telling me opposing view points in regards to the Bible.
The Bible makes it perfectly clear that they are "different"; not "equal" Or the "Same", for example:
"And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven." {Luke 12: 10}
Here, Jesus is different than the Holy Ghost, blasphemy is forgiven against Jesus but it is not forgiven towards the Holy Ghost, if they were the "Same", wouldn't the forgiveness be the same, it's not Barbara, it is "different"
Also "Why do you call me Good, there is none Good Except for God alone" {Mark 10:18}
Jesus is not the "same" as God as Jesus clarifies, otherwise, Jesus would be also Good and would "not" correct the traveler.
{God is not limited to one and only one form at any given time.}
I agree, God is everywhere, "unseen" we can not see God according to the Bible:
"If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen" {1 John 4:20}
"No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us." {1 John 4:12}
Therefore Barbara, If you are looking at a picture of Jesus on your wall, according to St. John, If you can see Jesus, then Jesus is not God.
{There are other things in the messages to address, but I do not have time. Maybe someone else does. I'll check back in
a day or so.}
Take Your time, no rush, Heaven or Hell are Eternal
{With Christian love, Barbara}
Yes, I do sense love within you which leaves me to wonder why you are not Muslim?, what do you have against "Submitting your will to God"
Why feel the segregation every sunday when you can feel the Unity every Friday, when comparing the Bible and the Koran, as a woman, God gives you more reasons to Feel Love in the Koran
Furthermore, you can take responsibility for your own sins, God "Can"
Forgive your sins by "asking", why fantasize that innocent Jesus had to die for us, take responsibility for your own crimes, isn't that "true" morality.
Who ever tells you that God does not hear you or forgive you without the "Blood" of Jesus, does not know the Mercy of God, has not understood the Bible and is preaching opposite what Jesus taught.
Peace and Blessings,
Your Brother in Islam: Mohamed