Re: Has Allah Removed the Curse of Babylon

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Posted by Mohamed Ghounem on December 29, 1997 at 14:16:42:

In Reply to: Re: Has Allah Removed the Curse of Babylon posted by Barbara on December 28, 1997 at 07:21:50:

Dear Sister Barbara,
You wrote;

{The context is speaking of the end time judgement. In your opinion a pure language would be Arabic? In my opinion, it is metaphoric, but if it weren't it would be a heavenly language, since there is none pure on earth.}

Arabic is often refered to as "the pure language" for many reasons, details upon request, and Muslims believe Arabic is the language in Heaven, prehaps if you listen to some Koran recited you'll understand why we know this.

{God reveals His message of salvation in all translations of the Bible.}

This is not true sister Barbara, I kindly sugest to study history, all the original Hebrew Gospels were destoryed by the Greeks and alot of human decisions were made as far as which Gospels you would eventually read.

The Nicea concil decided that the fastest way to spread Christianity is to support the Gospels that say Jesus died and you don't have to follow the Law of Moses, only Grace.

It is very "easy" to walk into a church, sing and feel the spirit, why then are so many turning to Islam, bowing in Submission to their Creator and feeling the Power, not just the spirit.

You say all Bibles have the message of salvation, look up the following: Marcionite Gospel, Barnabas Gospel, Basilidians, Docetae and many more.

Witness the proof that there were Gospels that stated Jesus was saved, or never died on the cross. Facts are facts sister Barbara, being Muslim is not taking away Jesus.

{Some Christians disagree on minor fundamentals, but the message of salvation holds us together.}

Minor.. Do you mean weather to follow works or grace, to abolish the law or not, etc..

{There may be 2000 denominations but there is only one kind of Christian.}

What about the Catholics or those Christians that believe Jesus is God and that his death on the Cross was only an act to decieve the devil so the devil would not beat him while Jesus was in human form, the Christians continue; "If Jesus saved himself than the devil would have know that Jesus was God in human form and would have defeated God"

You are not going to deny that thousands of Christians do not believe in the Father, Son and Spirit, they believe in only the Son as God, and claim the death on the cross was olny an act to fool the devil, if you do not believe me, travel, everytown and country has a different story. The majority say salvation but thousands don't.

One more thing, the posts about Abraham, and Sacrafic=Love? were prompted by you, I would like to know the logic, so if you don't mind I would appreciate the imput, if you have to print it and ask other, I will wait.

Peace and Blessings,
Your Brother in Islam:Mohamed

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: Dear Sister Barbara,
: You wrote;

: {The context is speaking of the end time judgement. In your opinion a pure language would be Arabic? In my opinion, it is metaphoric, but if it weren't it would be a heavenly language, since there is none pure on earth.}

: Arabic is often refered to as "the pure language" for many reasons, details upon request, and Muslims believe Arabic is the language in Heaven, prehaps if you listen to some Koran recited you'll understand why we know this.

: {God reveals His message of salvation in all translations of the Bible.}

: This is not true sister Barbara, I kindly sugest to study history, all the original Hebrew Gospels were destoryed by the Greeks and alot of human decisions were made as far as which Gospels you would eventually read.

: The Nicea concil decided that the fastest way to spread Christianity is to support the Gospels that say Jesus died and you don't have to follow the Law of Moses, only Grace.

: It is very "easy" to walk into a church, sing and feel the spirit, why then are so many turning to Islam, bowing in Submission to their Creator and feeling the Power, not just the spirit.

: You say all Bibles have the message of salvation, look up the following: Marcionite Gospel, <A HREF="http://www.debate.org.uk/weboard/debate/messages/477.html">Barnabas Gospel</A>, Basilidians, Docetae and many more.

: Witness the proof that there were Gospels that stated Jesus was saved, or never died on the cross. Facts are facts sister Barbara, being Muslim is not taking away Jesus.

: {Some Christians disagree on minor fundamentals, but the message of salvation holds us together.}

: Minor.. Do you mean weather to follow works or grace, to abolish the law or not, etc..

: {There may be 2000 denominations but there is only one kind of Christian.}

: What about the Catholics or those Christians that believe Jesus is God and that his death on the Cross was only an act to decieve the devil so the devil would not beat him while Jesus was in human form, the Christians continue; "If Jesus saved himself than the devil would have know that Jesus was God in human form and would have defeated God"

: You are not going to deny that thousands of Christians do not believe in the Father, Son and Spirit, they believe in only the Son as God, and claim the death on the cross was olny an act to fool the devil, if you do not believe me, travel, everytown and country has a different story. The majority say salvation but thousands don't.

: One more thing, the posts about Abraham, and Sacrafic=Love? were prompted by you, I would like to know the logic, so if you don't mind I would appreciate the imput, if you have to print it and ask other, I will wait.

: Peace and Blessings,
: Your Brother in Islam:Mohamed

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