Re: Sacrafice=Love?

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: Dear Brother Chris,
: You wrote;

: {I will attempt an answer in part}

: Thank you although I did not ask for a partial answer and you left out the most important part, the souls of millions of past, present, and future Jews who do not believe in Jesus because of his death on the cross.

: Are the Christians better than the Jews that followed the Law of Moses and worked hard towards Savation and simply asked for proof as many of Jesus's disciples consistantly asked for proof that Jesus was from God.  

: {the death was to show the conquering of death. (Hence the return later to Thomas)}

: Jesus "already" showed he can raise the dead, {John 2:22}, the Question is why did Jesus not save Himself since Jesus was "begging" to be saved, while all those Jews were wittnessing what "appeared" to be Jesus powerless and speaking to a God that did not "listen".  In the Koran, God "Heard" Jesus and saved "Him"

: {If you love something/someone you sacrifice everything - which is why Abraham was prepared to make the sacrifice....}

: Abraham's only begotten son was saved by God because God is Merciful.

: {You not understanding the not saving shows you do not understand Him.}

: That is why I am asking for an answer, not a partial one and I prefer a scholar, who's not going to answer {you do not understand} no offence to you brother Chris, but you showed me in previous posts that you did not even know that "pork" and judgeing and calling others sinners is forbidden in the Bible, you don't have to quote the Bible for me, but a good understanding of it is prefered, Thank you for your time.

: {But humans need signs}

: Do you have proof that Jesus died, no one saw Jesus die, you are right that humans need proof and God knew that human's minds would evolve to the point that scientific facts would be the Ultimate Judge for truth <A HREF="http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/library/jesus-say/ch13.html">Click Here</A>

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: : One last question to consider in your reply, if Jesus's intension was to be a sacrafice, why would he "Beg" and "Pray" to God to be saved, and if your answer is that Jesus had a moment of weakness, than why say Jesus is 1/3 God, seeing many Christians say "Jesus is God in human form", because Jesus had the power to heal and raise people from the dead and walk on
: water, why then is Jesus at this moment helpless and powerless and most of all, not wanting to be sacraficed?

: : Wouldn't the point of love from God be to have peace, wouldn't there be peace between the Jews and the Christians, past present and future be a reality if Jesus was saved from the cross as clarified in the Koran. Did you know that most of the original Muslims were Christians and Jews, who then searched, asked, and discovered peace and truth in Islam.

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: : My concern is sincere, I would like to know the "logic" behind the thinking Sacrafice=Love.

: : If I were in a room full of people and there was one person singled out to be sacraficed so all the other people in the room could be saved, wouldn't the loving thing be not sacrafice at all, understand that if your sin is as large as a mountain, God Created the Mountains and can remove them as well.

: If your sin is as deep as the Sea, God Created All the Seas in this world and the Universe and can remove them too, God loves and saved Jesus.

: Peace and Blessings,
: Your Brother in Islam: Mohamed