Re: Why Muslims are wrong in their beliefs.

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Posted by Howard on March 05, 1998 at 19:10:45:

In Reply to: Re: Why Muslims are wrong in their beliefs. posted by Mohamed Ghounem on March 01, 1998 at 00:14:35:

: Dear Brother Howard, Hi

: I respond: The Pope as you do, state that Muslims Worship the Same God as the Jews and Christians.

: The Pope as you do, Know that Muslims Follow the Teachings in the Qur'an. If the Pope is going to make a Public Documented Statement that Muslims follow the Same God, then I'm sure he has done research and verified that the Qur'an is from the God of Abraham and Moses and all the Prophets, the Same God of the Heavens and the Earth.

: If the Qur'an was false and taught of a false god, then the Pope would not make a Public Statement that the Muslims worship the Same God.

: I am not saying the Pope is a Muslim, I am saying that from Pope's statement, the Pope is confirming the Validity of the Qur'an, the Muslim's Book, that it is from the Same God as the Pope states "Muslims worship the Same God".

: Peace and Blessings,
: Your brother in Islam: Mohamed

"Let's try to be impartial in our reasoning. Could God go further in His stooping down, in His drawing near to man, thereby expanding the possibilities of our knowing Him. In truth, it seems that He has gone as far as possible. He could not go further. In a certain sense God has gone too far! Didn't Christ perhaps become 'a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles' (1 Cor 1:23)? Precisely because He called God His Father, because He revealed Him so openly in Himself, He could not but elicit the impression it was too much. Man was no longer able to tolerate such closeness, and thus the protests began.
This great protest has precise names--first it is called the Synogogue, and then Islam. Neither can acept a God who is so human. 'It is not suitable to speak of God in this way,' they protest. 'He must remain absolutely transcendent; He must remain pure Majesty. Majesty full of mercy, certainly, but not to the point of paying for the faults of His own creatures, for their sins.'....Yes, man knows that God is the One in whom 'we live and move and have our being' (Ac 17:28); but why must that be confirmed by His Death and Resurrection? Yet Saint Paul writes: 'If Christ has not been raised, then empty is our preaching; empty, too, your faith' (I Cor 15:14).
Saint Paul is profoundly aware that Christ is absolutely original and absolutely unique. If He were only a wise man like Socrates, if He were a 'prophet' like Muhammad, if He were 'enlightened' like Buddha, without any doubt He would not be what He is. He is the one mediator between God and humanity. He is mediator because He is both God and man. He holds within Himself the entire intimate world of divinity, the entire Mystery of the Trinity, and the mystery both of temporal life and of immortality. He is true man. In Him the divine is not confused with the human....Thanks to this, the entire world of men, the entire history of humanity, finds in Him its expression before God. And not a distant, unreachable God, but before a God that is in Him--that indeed is He. This is not found in any other religion, much less in any philosophy.
Christ is unique! Unlike Muhammed, He does more than just promulgate principles of religious discipline to which all God's worshippers must conform...He is the eternal witness to the Father and to the love that the Father had for His creatures from the beginning."

Pope John Paul II, Crossing the Threshold of Hope, pp. 40-44
Human

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: : Dear Brother Howard, Hi

: : I respond: The Pope as you do, state that Muslims Worship the Same God as the Jews and Christians.

: : The Pope as you do, Know that Muslims Follow the Teachings in the Qur'an. If the Pope is going to make a Public Documented Statement that Muslims follow the Same God, then I'm sure he has done research and verified that the Qur'an is from the God of Abraham and Moses and all the Prophets, the Same God of the Heavens and the Earth.

: : If the Qur'an was false and taught of a false god, then the Pope would not make a Public Statement that the Muslims worship the Same God.

: : I am not saying the Pope is a Muslim, I am saying that from Pope's statement, the Pope is confirming the Validity of the Qur'an, the Muslim's Book, that it is from the Same God as the Pope states "Muslims worship the Same God".

: : Peace and Blessings,
: : Your brother in Islam: Mohamed

:
: "Let's try to be impartial in our reasoning. Could God go further in His stooping down, in His drawing near to man, thereby expanding the possibilities of our knowing Him. In truth, it seems that He has gone as far as possible. He could not go further. In a certain sense God has gone too far! Didn't Christ perhaps become 'a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles' (1 Cor 1:23)? Precisely because He called God His Father, because He revealed Him so openly in Himself, He could not but elicit the impression it was too much. Man was no longer able to tolerate such closeness, and thus the protests began.
: This great protest has precise names--first it is called the Synogogue, and then Islam. Neither can acept a God who is so human. 'It is not suitable to speak of God in this way,' they protest. 'He must remain absolutely transcendent; He must remain pure Majesty. Majesty full of mercy, certainly, but not to the point of paying for the faults of His own creatures, for their sins.'....Yes, man knows that God is the One in whom 'we live and move and have our being' (Ac 17:28); but why must that be confirmed by His Death and Resurrection? Yet Saint Paul writes: 'If Christ has not been raised, then empty is our preaching; empty, too, your faith' (I Cor 15:14).
: Saint Paul is profoundly aware that Christ is absolutely original and absolutely unique. If He were only a wise man like Socrates, if He were a 'prophet' like Muhammad, if He were 'enlightened' like Buddha, without any doubt He would not be what He is. He is the one mediator between God and humanity. He is mediator because He is both God and man. He holds within Himself the entire intimate world of divinity, the entire Mystery of the Trinity, and the mystery both of temporal life and of immortality. He is true man. In Him the divine is not confused with the human....Thanks to this, the entire world of men, the entire history of humanity, finds in Him its expression before God. And not a distant, unreachable God, but before a God that is in Him--that indeed is He. This is not found in any other religion, much less in any philosophy.
: Christ is unique! Unlike Muhammed, He does more than just promulgate principles of religious discipline to which all God's worshippers must conform...He is the eternal witness to the Father and to the love that the Father had for His creatures from the beginning."

: Pope John Paul II, Crossing the Threshold of Hope, pp. 40-44
: Human

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